marllonflaxDxD Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) Credits of post and idea(because he published first): Guardian_Of_Alola Link to his publication that I will use for inspiration(Credits): Topic OBS: @Patrick I swear to everyone that I would love to use the codes [quote], [spoiler] and others (color, text size, etc) But I'm doing my best with a cellphone (I can't do this via pc), so I ask for understanding and everyone for not being able to arrange the text as I would like. The cell phone limits me to using low resources to create the topic and I do my best to cooperate with the game in the time I have. (I've asked for this before, but out of respect I'll give the credits, as I didn't have my forum account to create the topic the way I'd like) Anyway: Many Pokémon in the game are with outdated moves. I use Dark Emolga in my main team (for example) and I would like to put Solar Beam to facilitate the SQ, but he can't learn it in the game, although I know it via SWSH pokemons. Zapdos, which also has the necessary combination for my team, could have sky attack and heat wave via move tutor, but it doesn't have this vortex move, as it's outdated. mainly without the tutors moves. Again, anyway. I'll give the solution with the complete bibliography I know (because I know there are many tutor moves, moves, games, etc. I understand) Since I used the electric type example, I will use a link about the same type. https://www.serebii.net/pokemon/type/electric/ i@Patrithis link the vortex developers (I believe it is a function of Flamescape) can have all the bibliography of the move that each pokemon learns in the history of all canonical games in the pokemon franchise. Soon, it will have all the Move tutors from all the old games, the new moves that each Pokémon learns, all the moves of each type of Pokémon along with all the Pokémon of that type from all the games ever released. on the link.) I hope it doesn't come across as arrogant, but I'm just explaining it, as I've seen many who don't know about this source and look for bubalpidia, Pokemondb, official sites and other sites that don't give as much information as serebii. Updating the moves from the other sources I've mentioned and that many use as their main/official source for pokemon will make the work very difficult. In this link you will have all the necessary formations about everything that has happened in game, manga, anime, events, everything.(It is well summarized and easy to find) -Another example is an electric type: All Pokémon that learn the Electro Ball move(Which my Dark Emolga uses) Link: https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-sm/electroball.shtml -Another example showing all emolga information on all franchised games ever released https://www.serebii.net/pokemon/emolga/ By clicking on each generation of the game, you will have access to information about the pokemon in the franchise. -another example showing all the information of all the unique moves that could only be obtained in some old events of some old game. Link: https://www.serebii.net/games/eventmoves.shtml with this source you will have the job easier (in terms of research, I know you will have a lot of work in the development to implement the service(new moves and move tutor), but it makes it easier with serebii). Ps: I understand the reasons why Z-move can't be implemented and I understand that it's easy to explain to players. We've seen this happening before with the Explosion and Self-Destruction moves. So we will hardly see attacks with power 190, 210, 230, 250, etc (even so I'll leave it here just in case the gms have any idea how to implement them without harming the gameplay. All Z-moves in SM: https://www.serebii.net/sunmoon/zmoves.shtml All Z-moves in USUM: https://www.serebii.net/ultrasunultramoon/zmoves.shtml All Z-Crystals itens: https://www.serebii.net/itemdex/list/zcrystal.shtml ) Ps2: I recommend that you do a billing service for Move tutor(with npcs in maps!?) (can be done in several ways) to reduce players' money and make them battles/play in some way (missions!?) to have the possibility to teach the powerful and useful move in your pokemon. (like a solar beam on my emolga that has immunity to ground type to use in SQs) Responding to the Discord Moderator, so that the message arrives faster. Sorry maybe I wasn't as explicit as possible, but it's because the site is very well archived and easy to search. Here you can find everything you are looking for: 1- Updated Attackdex including galar moves. All categorized and well organized. In addition to easy access. https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-swsh/ 2- Full Complete list of galar news moves. Well organized, documented and categorized by type(pokémon) of movement. (Ps: as I said before, bulbalpidia, pokemondb, official sites (that's right), among many other sites are terrible sources for what you're looking for.) https://www.serebii.net/swordshield/attacks.shtml Ps:Editing for the last time, as I forgot a detail. The SWSH TMs and TRs(although the list with all the movements already has them there.) 3- All TM in SWSH (Ps2: My Dark Emolga with Solar Beam in SQs 😏) https://www.serebii.net/swordshield/tm.shtml 4 - All TR in SWSH https://www.serebii.net/swordshield/tr.shtml 5- Move tutor from SWSH update(isle of armor move tutors) (Ps2: My Dark Golurk with Poltergeist in SQs 😏) https://www.serebii.net/swordshield/isleofarmormovetutors.shtml 6- Old SWSH tutor moves (NOT UPDATED GAME(ISLE OF ARMOR), IT'S OF GAME NO PATCH. THE PATCHS ARE IN THE TOP LINK /\ ) https://www.serebii.net/swordshield/movetutors.shtml Continue: Source with the moves of old outdated moves tutors: BW2 Move tutor https://www.serebii.net/black2white2/movetutor.shtml XY Move tutor https://www.serebii.net/xy/movetutor.shtml ORAS(Omega Ruby - Alpha Sapphire) Move Tutor https://www.serebii.net/omegarubyalphasapphire/movetutor.shtml SM(Sun - Moon) Move tutor https://www.serebii.net/sunmoon/movetutors.shtml USUM(Ultra Sun - Ultra Moon) Move tutor https://www.serebii.net/sunmoon/movetutors.shtml Galar SWSH Move tutor: https://www.serebii.net/swordshield/attacks.shtml Galar SWSH update(isle of armor) move tutor https://www.serebii.net/swordshield/isleofarmormovetutors.shtml Just to not make the text too big and make my topic easier, I will explain how the next topic objective works. I'll try to make everything well easier now, but if I go beyond that, the topic gets too big and ends up being uninteresting for some. An entire cataloged link with everything about the normal type in the pokemon franchise. (Pokemons, moves, etc. Just enter the link. It's all there. As brief as possible) All normal type moves in all games (8 generations), just click on the name of the move and see which Pokémon can learn in all ways. Ex: All Pokémon of Normal type https://www.serebii.net/pokemon/type/normal/#pokemon EX: All move of Normal Type https://www.serebii.net/pokemon/type/normal/#moves (usually via level, TM, TR, HM, MT, moves that could be learned in previous games and were removed from new ones, among other things). as already explained using the normal type as an example, i won't do this with the others history of the pokemon franchise about everything NORMAL in every game the franchise https://www.serebii.net/pokemon/type/normal/ BUG TYPE https://www.serebii.net/pokemon/type/bug/ DARK TYPE https://www.serebii.net/pokemon/type/dark/ DRAGON TYPE https://www.serebii.net/pokemon/type/dragon/ ELECTRIC TYPE https://www.serebii.net/pokemon/type/electric/ FAIRY TYPE https://www.serebii.net/pokemon/type/fairy/ FIGHTING TYPE https://www.serebii.net/pokemon/type/fighting/ FIRE TYPE https://www.serebii.net/pokemon/type/fire/ FLYING TYPE https://www.serebii.net/pokemon/type/flying/ GHOST TYPE https://www.serebii.net/pokemon/type/ghost/ GRASS TYPE https://www.serebii.net/pokemon/type/grass/ GROUND TYPE https://www.serebii.net/pokemon/type/ground/ ICE TYPE https://www.serebii.net/pokemon/type/ice/ POISON TYPE https://www.serebii.net/pokemon/type/poison/ PSYCHIC TYPE https://www.serebii.net/pokemon/type/psychic/ ROCK TYPE https://www.serebii.net/pokemon/type/rock/ STELL TYPE https://www.serebii.net/pokemon/type/steel/ WATER TYPE https://www.serebii.net/pokemon/type/water/ I'm just noticing something and helping to facilitate the service for the good of the game. If you deliver me with this doubt (in addition to showing that the problem could really be ruined sources that hindered the service), others may present the same problem, so I will facilitate the search process for other generations of the game as well. Because you know that it's not just the moves and move tutor galar that are missing, move tutor and some ORAS, SM, USUM and some outdated BW and BW2 moves. the franchise is too big and it's even understandable to get lost with so much. But I'll help at least with the searches and archives categorized here in the topic, so that the developer can do the hard part later (program). thank you SpheX for being respectful to me (although this should be everyone's obligation.) But I say this because not everyone does. I had a pretty shameful day responding to a wiki Editor's lack of politeness and dexterity (whose service was always admired by me, very sad.) 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SpheX Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 When you have a full complete list of Galar move changes let me know. They will be added when the changes are well documented rather than reading about 900 bulbapedia pages and cross referencing everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marllonflaxDxD Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, SpheX said: When you have a full complete list of Galar move changes let me know. They will be added when the changes are well documented rather than reading about 900 bulbapedia pages and cross referencing everything. It's all on this site very well filed and easy to access. I'll explain to you inside the post itself because moderators take a long time to approve the answer (I understand that maybe they do more things and don't have enough time, I just wanted the answer to reach you faster. I have supplemented the topic, explained and cataloged in a way to make it as easy as possible how to find updates of all moves for all Pokemons in all games already released. I also left the links to what you asked for me.(full complete list of Galar move changes) Not wanting to be abused (sorry 😛 ), but like my topic later. I have a lot of work to do it and I did it instead of using that time to play the game (vortex) today, just because I like this game so much and I'm considerate of your work. (Although one of you, sneezeball, which unfortunately I can't block as there are no tools on the forum for that, was unprofessional as an employee of the pokemon vortex company.) Edited October 2, 2021 by marllonflaxDxD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneezeball Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 12 hours ago, SpheX said: When you have a full complete list of Galar move changes let me know. They will be added when the changes are well documented rather than reading about 900 bulbapedia pages and cross referencing everything. Pretty sure those lists exist on smogon, they always do those lists with every game. Im too lazy to search for it tho 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marllonflaxDxD Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, Sneezeball said: Pretty sure those lists exist on smogon, they always do those lists with every game. Im too lazy to search for it tho Smogon has always been used to play competitively (assembling strategy) and not with an encyclopedia site. if it's about that service done. Bubalpidia, pokemondb, Smogon and others sites do too, but good luck searching in "thousand" pages, having to wait for updates or sometimes not find what you want. Smogon even creates competition rules used by Pokémon Showdown(battle simulator) and some pokemon fan players who don't want to play broken in yours oficial Pokémon games. Anyone who has played every pokemon game and breeded their competitive teams to play by smogon rules knows that. With little research anyone confirms what I said. For example, competitive pokemon most used in SWSH (over used or OU) https://www.smogon.com/dex/ss/formats/ou/ None is more complete and easy to move (access) than the one I published. It has everything about all games in one search (just clicking on the pokemon). Examaple: https://www.serebii.net/pokemon/emolga/ In addition to updating is very fast (wait for Pokémon BDSP, go to the site and do a test) It greatly reduces the time for work, sir wiki editor. I even recommend you use it also, as well as education too. Thanks for giving more feedback on my topics, check back often, but be polite, ok!? Thanks, guy Ps: Your post was accepted quickly and mine from 17 hours ago was not. Funny. @Patrick Edited October 2, 2021 by marllonflaxDxD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneezeball Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) @marllonflaxDxD So with your link no one has to click on 900 different bulbapedia links, but has to click on 900 different serebii links? Wow And yes smogon is competitive, thats why they have lists of every single move pokemon can learn in one place Edited October 3, 2021 by Sneezeball 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
