chris Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Hey guys I get asked about tips for completing sidequests from time to time so thought I'd share some advice for completing them as quickly as possible. Here are a few tips, but the first is by far the most important. Use Level 100 Dark (not the type) Pokemon with STAB moves >= 128 power Calculation: Spoiler Damage = Level x Base Power x STAB x Dark Bonus 400 = 100 x BP x 1.5 x 1.25 BP = 400/(100x1.5x1.25) BP = 128 Moves like this will always do over 400 damage on a neutral target, meaning you can OHKO anything that doesn't resist the attack. Click the link below for a list of all moves that fall into this. Note: OHKO moves are excluded as they have 30% accuracy. Spoiler >127 BP Moves You can see that Ghost/Bug/Poison/Ground Pokémon are intrinsically worse due to not having STAB attacks that can OHKO. The following Pokémon learn two different-typed moves from above as STAB (Best moves listed). I would recommend using these to make up the bulk of your team, as the extra coverage will help smash through the opponents. Value is placed on accuracy vs power. These are also roughly sorted by their type coverage (e.g. Reshiram & Turtonator hit more Normal/Super Effective and less No Effect than Chesnaught). Spoiler Reshiram: Blue Flare/Draco Meteor Turtonator: Shell Trap/Draco Meteor Hawlucha: Focus Punch/Sky Attack Zekrom: Bolt Strike/Draco Meteor Greninja: Hydro Cannon/Fling Scraggy/Scrafty/Pangoro: Focus Punch/Fling Kommo-o: Focus Punch/Draco Meteor Guzzlord: Draco Meteor/Fling Altaria/Noibat/Noivern: Draco Meteor/Sky Attack Archeops: Head Smash/Sky Attack Shiftry: Leaf Storm/Fling Kyurem (Black)/(White): (Ice Burn/Freeze Shock)/Draco Meteor Moltres/Ho-oh: Burn Up/Sky Attack Incineroar: Blast Burn/Fling Monferno/Infernape: Focus Punch/(Overheat/Blast Burn) Pignite/Emboar: Focus Punch/Burn Up Blaziken/Blaziken (Mega): High Jump Kick/(Overheat/Blast Burn) Drampa: (Hyper Beam/Giga Impact)/Draco Meteor Fearow/Noctowl/Staraptor/Braviary/Unfezant: (Hyper Beam/Giga Impact)/Sky Attack Taillow/Swellow: Boomburst/Sky Attack Magearna: Gyro Ball/Fleur Cannon Stufful/Bewear/Lopunny (Mega): Focus Punch/Flail Meloetta (Pirouette)/Snorlax (Mega): Focus Punch/Last Resort Chesnaught: Frenzy Plant/Focus Punch So... how do you choose your team using this? I use this coverage calculator for a rough guide on effectiveness. Using this, we can see that Fire/Dragon has brilliant neutral coverage, while Fighting/Flying has great super effective coverage. Therefore a fire/dragon and a fighting/flying type should be invaluable. As Shell Trap > Blue Flare, I would say that Hawlucha/Turtonator are essential. On the other side of things, Normal type attacks are less valuable as they hit nothing for SE damage, while being resisted by 2 and immune from another. Type variance is key: you don't want to be walled by anything, while maximising super effectiveness (for shinies/metallics) The following is just theorycrafting a team, may or may not be useful. Spoiler The aforementioned Pokémon are not walled by a single type. However, they only hit about 60% for super effectiveness. Fairy is only weak to Steel/Poison, so a steel type with Gyro Ball/Doom Desire should be the next step. Likewise, Electric is only weak to Ground, so, while Ground types don't have any > 400 power moves, they become invaluable due to the sidequests featuring a large number of Electric types. A type to hit Flying types would be useful too, as we have nothing yet... so Electric/Rock/Ice would be great. Let's see what we can do here: The only steel type with two 400 damage moves is Magearna. Having that would also give you Fleur Cannon which is great, as the team is struggling against Fairy/Dragon types like Mega Altaria. Obviously, not many people have Dark Magearna, so we can talk about another route. Steelix offers you both a Ground STAB in Earthquake as well as Gyro Ball so could be a good alternative on that front. For hitting flying types, you're actually quite limited. Zekrom/Kyurem (Black/White) offer the only electric/ice type attacks applicable here. Of the two, I would recommend the Kyurem formes, as they can hit Electric/Flying types like Zapdos. Once again, I understand most people won't have dark formes of these, so Zekrom is a reasonable choice. If you have chosen Dark Magearna, I would go with Rhyperior as your next option, as Rock will help against the Flying types, and you also gain a Ground type for Electrics. Let's evaluate what we have: Either: Turtonator/Hawlucha/Magearna/Rhyperior Turtnoator/Hawlucha/Steelix/(Zekrom/Kyurem(Black/White)) Water/Ground types are the next big hurdle, as it is only weak to Grass types. Hence, I would aim for a Grass type next. Likewise, nothing for Psychic types and little for Fire types means a Dark & Water type become useful. Dark in particular is probably the best neutral attack due to a lack of resistances. Options here instantly go to Shiftry/Greninja. Either would be good choices and will help decide what the last would be. Shiftry leaves means you will need something for Gligar/Gliscor/Landorus. While Greninja leaves you with pretty much all water types. Therefore, a Grass & Water type are essential here., and will guarantee full super effective coverage. I personally felt another type for Fairies was useful so opted for Greninja/Victreebell (Leaf Storm/Belch) as my last two. But other options include Shiftry/Jellicent (Water Spout) for a couple of type immunites. Another option would be Ludicolo (Water Spout/Solarbeam) & a Dark Type with Fling/Naughty List (Muk-A/Sableye/Hoopa-U/Caterpie-C etc. Rotom (Halloween) is another good option as Pumpkin Smash is the best Grass Type in the game and Electric coverage is always useful. If you have chosen the second team, Zekrom may stop you from getting perfect coverage. But you may want to look at Crustle (Rock Wrecker/Bug move) or Primarina (Hydro Cannon/Moonblast) to help deal with any inefficencies. I'm using a final team of: Turtonator/Hawlucha/Magearna/Rhyperior/Victreebell (Rotom-Halloween if I could)/Greninja and it works perfectly. P.s, if you are new or simply don't have the rarer Pokémon mentioned. I would use the following full budget team: Turtonator/Hawlucha/Shiftry/Rhyperior/Jellicent/Mawile It won't be perfect, as Mawile doesn't have phenomenal moves, but will help deal with fairy types as well as offer something against Sableye. Use a dark-dark type with Fling as your first Pokemon, not much resists it and so you will be able to tear through most of the sidequests without even having to think. As dark types are resisted by Fairy/Fighting/Dark; something that can deal with those after is generally useful and will enable you to keep clicking if your first faints. I personally use Greninja-Turtonator as my first two. But Shiftr-Turtonator should work just as well for a budget option. Coverage on your Pokémon is great but not essential See what each Pokémon/your team needs help with and work around that. Consider the level 120/150s within the sidequests: a lot will be Flying/Psychic/Dragon types so Ice/Dark coverage would go a long way to help beating those. However, if you have the >128BP moves, you can save money by not buying coverage moves as you won't need them particularly often. Also, here are the magnetic field quest numbers for anyone needing them: Spoiler 1176 1177 1178 1179 1421 1422 1423 1424 1425 1426 1427 1428 1429 1587 1588 1589 1850 1851 1852 1853 1854 1855 1856 1857 1858 1859 Hope this helps people doing sidequests. It's a horrible grind and the rewards aren't worth it unless you get beast balls/fossils, but it still needs doing unfortunately! Feel free to message me for any clarifications or if I've made a mistake! 5 3 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneezeball Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) Good job, I really like this. I always used normal pokemon with ohko move plus fighting and dark moves for pokemon I couldnt hit. Edited January 29, 2020 by Sneezeball 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malayan13 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) Hi. For that budget team you said, can i finish the side quest if i have that budget team? I'm still new here. What should I replace with Mawhile? And what do you mean by phenomenal moves? And should I replace their attack? or stick to their basic attack? Edited April 13, 2020 by malayan13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darshil_Irex Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Yo..chris thank for help whts ur ign i just wanna look at ur team and get an exampple Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 5 hours ago, malayan13 said: Hi. For that budget team you said, can i finish the side quest if i have that budget team? I'm still new here. What should I replace with Mawhile? And what do you mean by phenomenal moves? And should I replace their attack? or stick to their basic attack? Hi You can complete the sidequests with any team of level 100s really. The guide here is to create a team which can complete them in the fasted time. So, by phenomenal moves, I mean those which can OHKO with their attacks. E.g. a Dark Typhlosion with Eruption will OHKO anything which doesn't resist, isn't shiny nor metallic. Mawile doesn't have any moves which can do this - but it's typing is excellent. Steelix would be my replacement as it still has great typing and can OHKO with Gyro Ball. If you read through the post, you'll see that I discuss moves. You need one of the strongest moves on each Pokemon in your team. You don't need to change any other moves, but having strong options as coverage is never a bad thing - albeit rather costly. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Darshil_Irex said: Yo..chris thank for help whts ur ign i just wanna look at ur team and get an exampple Hey My ign is just Chris. I don't really play much any more so my current team is 6 Quilavas I think. Look at the second spoiler on the post and you will see what I use as my team. Then, you can go onto my profile, view all my Pokemon and find each one I mentioned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malayan13 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) What is STAB btw? STAB and OHKO are the same? And if Mawhile will be replaced by Steelix, therefore I got 2 ground types. Tortunator/Hawlucha/Rhyperior/Jellicent/Shiftry/Steelix I just need to fast end the side quest. hehehe Edited April 14, 2020 by malayan13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 10 hours ago, malayan13 said: What is STAB btw? STAB and OHKO are the same? And if Mawhile will be replaced by Steelix, therefore I got 2 ground types. Tortunator/Hawlucha/Rhyperior/Jellicent/Shiftry/Steelix I just need to fast end the side quest. hehehe STAB is Same Type Attack Bonus. If a Pokémon uses an attack which shares the same type as the Pokémon, its power will be increased by 1.5x. E.g a Steelix with Gyro Ball - Steel + Steel. OHKO is a One Hit Knockout: So an attack which faints the opponent in just one hit (hence being faster) You could always use something like Forretress with Gyro Ball if you want totally different typings Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay3r Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 This is my team, hard to get past first 2 pokes. pretty easy to obtain took me about 4 hours to find the all the Victinis and Zekrom. Works against any sidequest/special battle team. The last 3 pokes cover the weaknesses of the Victinis. Also I replaced Brine with Water Spout for Jellicent. Dark Victini OHKOs pretty much all Pokemon. Metallic and Normal Victini OHKO most pokemon except Shiny and Metallic. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer1248 Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 What a fantastic guide. Thank you for all the time it took to make this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...